With Such Words
if you aren't a hypocrite, your moral standards aren't high enough
Mansfield Park: Chapter 18 
26th-Jun-2013 08:59 am
talibusorabat: Two older white man sitting with the caption "Peanut gallery" (Slings & Arrows: Peanut gallery)
Shhhhhh I know it's late

Chapter 17

SIR THOMAS AT LAST. THANK GOODNESS.

And lord did I feel Fanny in this chapter. I have been that person who everyone complains to. (I've also been the person helping the guy I like and the girl he likes hook up. No wonder I loved this book in high school.)

I really do like Mary, and I'm glad she doesn't get an unhappy ending. She's selfish, but so is most everyone else in the book. I think I like her best of everyone (outside of Fanny) because she has the greatest perception of other people's feelings. She may care more for her happiness + her creature comforts than other people, but she at least is aware of what's going on around her.
Comments 
26th-Jun-2013 07:03 pm (UTC)
tigerlily: (Shun)
IT'S LIKE A SITCOM PLOT BUT MORE DEPRESSING.

I've been reading this site, and there was a discussion there: http://www.jimandellen.org/showmpvolch.html

I can't remember which page it was, unfortunately, but it pointed out that Mrs. Norris doesn't let Fanny talk about the play when Lady Bertram asks, and discourages attending the rehearsal. The writer read an implication that Mrs. Norris was trying to keep Lady Bertram from seeing the inappropriateness of it. Interesting, in light of the fact that Mrs. Norris runs things next to Sir Thomas, and he's trusted her with not doing this very thing.

This one is also relevant: http://www.jimandellen.or/mp/TheProblemofEdmund.html
"...he's [Edmund] just like all the Bertrams, Mrs Norris and everyone in the book but Fanny and interestingly Mary and Henry Crawford (who know themselves very well and simply aren't bothered about their amorality)."

For Henry, Mary, and Fanny, self-knowledge probably contributes to understanding how people behave around them. (Though not everything. I don't believe Mary knows of Fanny's love for Edmund, and Henry didn't either.) It's in their interest to know; how else can the Crawford's be so socially adept and Fanny get by as nearly a servant?

Fanny, the reliable worker who never does enough that she can't be asked for more. Of course that's how this kind of dynamic works. I think if it wasn't for the particulars of this situation, she wouldn't mind as much.
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